Taurus 23-24 A Mounted Indian With Scalp Locks

I have an insight into this degree due to an epiphany about a past life here, however I thought I would write about this symbol in relation to its 23-24 Taurus/ Leo/ Scorpio/ Aquarius cross, just because I'm enjoying exploring the possibility of energies moving and transmuting (which is, of course, what is and occurs in life).

Let's look at this guy, the Mounted Indian with Scalp Locks, who has claimed his power (horse) to conquest, trophies of which are displayed to show worth to the tribe. Depending on your point of view this invites judgement such as courageous, bloodthirsty, psychopath, defender, etc.

Leo 23-24 An Untidy, Unkempt Man relates to how the person does not care what society thinks – it could be related to an addiction (refering to trophies previously collected) that consumes the person to exclusion of caring about anything else, or it could be that the man now shuns all expectations and rules of society. As with scalp locks, this degree can be a slightly confronting one, such as for those who don’t like seeing untidy, unkempt homeless in the street. In both degrees, the person is operating on the edges of society (warrior, wanderer).

Scorpio 23-24 Crowds Coming Down The Mountain To Listen To One Man – I use a dream dreamt by the co-originator of Voice Dialogue, Hal Stone, to illustrate the concept:

Two years ago after over forty years of personal work on issues of power and vulnerability and surrender I had the following dream and this dream at the age of 84 or 85. In the dream Hal (dream self as third person) is walking around somewhere in the heavens in another dimension of consciousness. There are many people around as though something big was going on. Hal meets a man who looks like he knows what he is doing. He is like a competent foreman on a job. Hal asks him what is going on.

He tells Hal to go with him and they suddenly drop to another level or dimension of consciousness that is closer to earth. In front of us are a range of mountains in Southeast Asia with Everest on the right at just below 30,000 feet and then there are mountains on the left dropping off to a very large group of mountains at 18,000 to 20,000 feet high. We then zoom in closer and he points out one of these 18,000-20,000 mountains and he has me focus on it very clearly. I see all kinds of people at the top of the mountain and they are working there and he then says to me. “This mountain is your primary self! It is way too high for someone at your age and your stage of life and we are taking it down – all the way.” Then I see all kinds of backhoes and stone breaking equipment and a multitude of people working to bring down the mountain and they are doing it! They are cracking open the hard rock. (End Dream)

Our primary selves want life and fight for life even when we don't know it. Our primary selves force our vulnerability into submission whether we mean to or not. What happens typically is when we enter the aging process it is so often the case, as it was with me, that my primary self went back into gear because of the vulnerability I was feeling about aging and finances and fears about dying and many other things. So the primary self system kicked in again and re-engaged life in a way that is very common for many of us. My major body systems held tight until 2010-1011 and then all of the illnesses and body systems began to fail and I have gone through what I have gone through as a natural process to re-balance the system.

In this case the primary self is broken down because it is not appropriate for that stage in life. The symbol differs in that crowds are coming down the mountain, to listen to one person. The mountain exists. The crowds appear to be unified in their desire to listen to someone. You could compare this crowd to scalp locks for the one man (mounted Indian) although the feeling is less gorey. I prefer to continue the idea of breaking down social identity as indicated by the Leo symbol, so the Crowds Coming Down The Mountain To Listen To One Man is about meeting our many internal selves (as discussed in Voice Dialogue as a process of ageing and letting go of our previous societal roles), hopefully to unite them, possibly to revolutionise them, possibly under guidance of one self.

Aquarius 23-24 A Man Turning His Back On His Passions And Teaching From His Experience is a culmination of the Taurus/ Leo/ Scorpio experiences and processes, with the ability to share these with society, in a way that people are able to understand. All the addictions, ego-accoutrements and fear-based self-absorption were experienced to help other people who are going through and possibly struggling with the same experiences.

To continue a spiral (upward or downward!) into the Taurus symbol from Aquarius, I consider many options - that the teacher might consider their students as conquests ("how many can I convert?", "who do I choose to be my disciple(s)?"), or collect teaching "trophies" (awards, job titles as they enjoy their new work), or more deeply, collecting awareness of their internal selves (each with their own desires and patterns) to master and claim each self's "powers".


Does any part of the symbol resonate with you?

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